Side by side
Speed with popular models
Tokens a second for one conversation, each chip at its largest memory size (512 GB and 512 GB), with the best version of the model that fits.
| Model | M3 Ultra | M5 Ultra |
|---|---|---|
| Llama 3.1 8B Instruct8B | 43–77 8-bit | 64–113 8-bit |
| gpt-oss-20b21B · 3.6B active | 194–345 native 4.25-bit | 284–505 native 4.25-bit |
| Qwen3.6 35B A3B35B · 3B active | 115–205 8-bit | 169–300 8-bit |
| Qwen3.8 27B27B | 13–23 8-bit | 19–33 8-bit |
| Llama 3.3 70B Instruct70B | 5–9 8-bit | 14–24 4-bit |
| gpt-oss-120b117B · 5.1B active | 137–243 native 4.25-bit | 200–356 native 4.25-bit |
| Qwen3.5 122B A10B122B · 10B active | 35–62 8-bit | 51–91 8-bit |
| DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731284B · 13B active | 27–47 8-bit | 39–70 8-bit |
Questions
- Is the M5 Ultra faster than the M3 Ultra for LLMs?
- The M5 Ultra reads memory about 47% faster than the M3 Ultra (1,200 vs 819 GB/s), so it writes about 47% faster with any model that fits both. Reading a long prompt depends on GPU compute instead, which this comparison doesn’t cover.
- Which can run bigger models, the M3 Ultra or the M5 Ultra?
- Neither: both go up to 512 GB. At that size the M3 Ultra runs 60 and the M5 Ultra 61 of 73 open models well; the faster one clears more of them at 10 tokens a second.
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How it’s worked out
Memory: the model’s parameters at 8, 6, 4, 3 or 2 bits per weight plus MLX’s group scales (half a bit per weight), or its native format, with room for the context on top. By default macOS lets the GPU use about 75% of unified memory. Speed: memory bandwidth divided by the bytes read per token is the ceiling for one conversation; in llama.cpp’s public Apple Silicon benchmarks real runs reach about 45% to 80% of it, which is the range shown. These are estimates, not measurements: measure your own Mac on MLX Bench. Model figures from each official model card, chip figures from Apple’s Tech Specs. Checked 2026-10-19. Same data as mlx.app/compare.